Linking Diabetics Coast 2 Coast
Diabetes and Depression Chat with Wendy Rapaport
Wendy is always one of our most popular chat room featured guests. As usual, the chat started early and Wendy's energy created a fun and fast-paced chat environment. The room filled up to about 30 participants, and most were very involved in the conversation. I have included the transcipt below in 2 parts, due to post length restrictions on the forum. I am also attaching a Word doc. Please feel free to comment on this conversation below!
Transcript follows:
carseatmama says to (08:49):
Hello, what if it's not the diabetic that's depresed it's the mom?
carseatmama says to (08:49):
My 6 year old was diagnosed in Dec.
Wendy Rapaport says to (08:50):
well mom's often have a lot Rof sadness and anxiety for the first year in particular..and they DO GET BETTE
carseatmama says to (08:50):
I cry alot!
Wendy Rapaport says to (08:50):
AND OF COURSE CARSEAT, mom's effect their children...which is why it's so important to get support and guidance
Wendy Rapaport says to (08:51):
you might want to go the Diabetes Research Institute website and sign up to be mat
carseatmama says to (08:51):
We really don't have any programs here...her docs are 1 1/2 hour away
Wendy Rapaport says to (08:51):
hed with someone from the pepsquad
Wendy Rapaport says to (08:51):
you need some online and phone buddies
Wendy Rapaport says to (08:52):
and try the diabet
Wendy Rapaport says to (08:52):
es research institute pep squad 18003213437 barbara singer and she will match you with someone
carseatmama says to (08:52):
Thanks!!
Wendy Rapaport says to (08:52):
and of course there is always professional help...NO STIGMA... it's part of coping
Wendy Rapaport says to (08:53):
hello dearest Gina...love from Gary
Becky1512 says to (08:53):
I went to a therapist after my son was diagnosed
Wendy Rapaport says to (08:53):
yes, becky,,it should almost be a mandatory part of treatment...what did you find helpful
Gina says to (08:54):
My Gary!!!
Gina says to (08:54):
Wendy
Wendy Rapaport says to (08:54):
and Becky whoh guided you to the therapist
Gina says to (08:54):
were you not able to sign in as your name i provided you with?
Becky1512 says to (08:54):
it was good to be able to cry
carseatmama says to (08:54):
I wish I could find a mom with a child Kadies age that has T1 so we can all go through it together
Wendy Rapaport says to (08:55):
no Gina, MY Gary
Becky1512 says to (08:55):
i just thought it would be helpful that was 4 1/2 years ago now
Gina says to (08:55):
Wendy i am p rivate messaging you
Becky1512 says to (08:56):
its so good to be able to talk to other parents that understand I really depend on everyone at CWD children with diabetes
bajanrick says to (08:56):
I have a question.I am not sure how the process works so forgive me if I am being rude. I have recently got my sugar readings under control and I am experiencing
sensations of anxiety. Has anyone else experienced such feelings and how were they treated?
Wendy Rapaport says to (08:56):
call your doctor and let him/her know that you are interested in meeting other families..you do a sleepover
kristaw says to (08:57):
good evening all
Gina says to (08:57):
bajanrick its probably because your blood sugars were high over a long period of time and the symptoms you feel are almost like a low
carseatmama says to (08:58):
kadie is 376!!! no rim or reason here
bajanrick says to (08:59):
its exactly like that. The doc refers to them as false hypos but they have been bothering me now for 12 mths
Gina says to (08:59):
We will officially start the chat in a few minutes
suzanne_una says to (08:59):
Gina and Dr. Wendy, thanks for doing this chat!
Wendy Rapaport says to (08:59):
yes, maybe it's the drop or change in the blood sugar
bajanrick says to (08:59):
and I think it is stating to effect m epsychologically to the point where there is a fear of these sensations
Wendy Rapaport says to (08:59):
pleasure to be here
Gina says to (09:00):
oh no bajanrick
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:00):
bajanrick..it is tough..but you can "decondition yourself" with awareness, relaxation, and changing your thoughts
bajanrick says to (09:01):
especially since when I test the readings are always fine...ok, is Xanax just a shortcut?
bajanrick says to (09:01):
my doc has recommended it
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:01):
using medication can work...but you also want to nourish being skillful..I think MEDICATION with THERAPY IS A BETTER combination
Jody says to (09:02):
Hello all...sorry I'm late
Gina says to (09:02):
Hi jody no problem
DiabeticDiva says to (09:02):
Hi everyone, Windy here
drewg says to (09:02):
i'm in my library and they're only surviving sugar Red Bull for finals week...now that's depressing.
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:02):
it is something like post traumatic stress...(not diagnosable...but the repetition of anxiety
drewg says to (09:02):
*Serving
Jody says to (09:03):
What about Yoga?
Jody says to (09:03):
I just started taking classes.....too much stress on the Blood Sugar?
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:03):
visualize the success you feel drewg..over accomplishing and it being over!
Gina says to (09:03):
I used to have terrible anxeity
Gina says to (09:03):
anxiety
bajanrick says to (09:03):
I have been reluctant to take teh Xanax but I am growing tired....what is the best therapy?
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:04):
Yoga is a good thing too..it lowers blood sugar in most cases for hours after
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:04):
Go to talk someone professionally..take a few sessions..I think every one with diabetes and certainly every mother ought to have a person in their corner
Jody says to (09:04):
I am a recent pump user and I'm still trying to figure out how to work that before classes so my BS doesn't plummet after
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:05):
Jody I think people sometimes disconnect the pump..eat a bit more..many options
Ellen4087 says to (09:06):
20 years ago when I was overwhelmed with my then 15 month old's new diagnosis, I went to a support group with Wendy S-Rapaport - and I still go to her groups!
Jody says to (09:06):
Wendy: Do you still run support groups for T1?
Gina says to (09:06):
I think that getting support when people are first dxd is crucial
Jody says to (09:06):
I used to attend them at UM when I was a new Dx and they worked WONDERS for me.
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:07):
group support is a great thing because you get great ideas from each other..and find that even though down, you can still help each other
Jody says to (09:07):
I wish I could find one for T1 adults
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:07):
Yes I do support groups still.. for th
Gina says to (09:07):
i wished when i was first dxd i had one
Gina says to (09:07):
jody where do you live?
Jody says to (09:07):
Now, I live near Ft. Lauderdale. I grew up in Kendall
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:07):
for those in Boca, there is one thursday nite at 7...we prob need a webcam to have you join us
Gina says to (09:08):
omgggg a webcam yes!!
drewg says to (09:08):
i get incredibly upset, to the point i don't sleep, about long term effects of the disease. should i stop thinking that these negative effects happen to EVERY diabetic? i can't
help but feel like that.
Gina says to (09:08):
then we can all join in on the fun
Gina says to (09:08):
drewg me too
Gina says to (09:08):
its a terrible feeling
Jody says to (09:08):
drewg: we all get that way at times :(
hsmerritt says to (09:08):
too often
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:08):
yes Drewg...be in charge of your thoughts (AFTER YOUSHARE THEM)...you are not a statistic and don't let fear steal your present joys from you
Gina says to (09:08):
i e ven got to the point where i just wanted to get the complications so that i would know i had them instead of wondering
Gina says to (09:09):
if i would get them
hsmerritt says to (09:09):
OMG ME TOO
kristaw says to (09:09):
i get to the point where i don't even want to get out of bed and go on with the rest of my day.
hsmerritt says to (09:09):
I lived half my life that way
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:09):
yes I think that you are all NORMAL...MY DIAGNOSIS
Jody says to (09:09):
I was told a few years back that I (luckily) passed the "danger" zone (after 20 years)
Gina says to (09:09):
it sucks
hsmerritt says to (09:09):
too late for normal
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:09):
BUT feelings should not dictate your behaviors
hsmerritt says to (09:09):
to late for that
KarenG says to (09:10):
I've had T1 for almost 30 years - but I still feel like I'm "broken". And a burden to my husband. I hate that
Gina says to (09:10):
yea
Jody says to (09:10):
It's sad when you've had it longer than you haven't
suzanne_una says to (09:10):
wendy, we can control our feelings with practice, right?
Becky1512 says to (09:10):
Ive read the book 50 secrets of the longest living people with diabetes by Sheri Colberg and Steven Edelman its a fantastic book about people living for up to 80 years
with type 1 diabetes
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:10):
it is the amoujnt of obsessing that gets us into trouble
hsmerritt says to (09:10):
I am a burden to my husband
hsmerritt says to (09:10):
I think he likes it
Gina says to (09:10):
lol sorry i had to laugh
Jody says to (09:10):
hs: I bet your husband doesn't think so
hsmerritt says to (09:10):
I think we agree diabetes is a friggin' burden for ALL
drewg says to (09:10):
i feel very different in terms of when i got it. i got it when i was in 10th grade and in terms of genetics only my great uncle (who i never even met) had it. i felt like i was cursed haha
Jody says to (09:11):
He would not have married you if he thought you were a burden
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:11):
Yes, you can control feelings with giving them acknowledgement...and then decide not to be ruled by negativity
hsmerritt says to (09:11):
I'm so negative
Gina says to (09:11):
drewg omg you have all the feelings i had
Gina says to (09:11):
cursed
hsmerritt says to (09:11):
heehee
hsmerritt says to (09:11):
how long has drew gad this
Jody says to (09:11):
we are "special" not cursed! (keep repeating that!)
drewg says to (09:12):
i was diagnosed 1/15/05. so 4 years.
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:12):
stay loving..and you will be loveable...and allow all the negativity to come out in sessions like this..or in groups..or with the therapist
Gina says to (09:12):
wendy some of us are stubborn and dont want to go to a therapist
hsmerritt says to (09:12):
Oh, a newbie. Hang tough.
Gina says to (09:12):
then what
KarenG says to (09:12):
or the thought of therapy is scary
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:13):
Sometimes the adjustment to diabetes happens many times over the course of your lives..when you initially get it..maybe when you go off from your family...get
Jody says to (09:13):
Wendy: You helped me through those first years. I don't know what I would have done without "Group"
hsmerritt says to (09:13):
Igroup therapy or 1 on 1?
Gina says to (09:13):
or the thought of therapy making you feel like you are more crazy
Jody says to (09:13):
HS: what makes you more comfortable?
drewg says to (09:13):
i know people will probably scream at me a lot for this...but do any other people drink a lot?
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:13):
married...have a baby..different adjstments
JorjGaidin says to (09:13):
Wendy: is depression common amongst diabetics? How common is it?
Jody says to (09:13):
What works for one may not another
hsmerritt says to (09:13):
about what?
Gina says to (09:13):
drewg I dont drink that much anymore
Jody says to (09:13):
HS: "counseling"
bajanrick says to (09:13):
I drink sometimes to avoid anxiety
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:14):
Is the drinking related to your age group (college) or are you USING it as way to cope..to escape
drewg says to (09:14):
um..ive been drinking since 7th grade.
drewg says to (09:14):
i do it because i enjoy it.
drewg says to (09:14):
i enjoy the social aspect, i do it with my family, my friends, i enjoy having parties.
Ellen4087 says to (09:14):
I'd also like to share that approximately 1 in 10 persons with type 1 diabetes also have celiac - often undiagnosed. Untreated celiac can also present with depression,
lethargy...If you haven't been checked for it, ask your doctor to check
hsmerritt says to (09:14):
I find support from a lot of different sources but there's no doubt that this disease is isolating.
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:14):
a therapist becomes a safe "friend"...even though they are professional..your secrets are safe with them
Gina says to (09:14):
HS i agree
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:14):
hsmerritt...who is doing th
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:15):
isolating?
suzanne_una says to (09:15):
ellen, you are so right! we are at risk for lots of autoimmune disorders that can zap us of energy
hsmerritt says to (09:15):
huh? I'm sorry I can't multi-task...
Jody says to (09:15):
I try going to the Gym which is energizing and tiring at the same time....
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:15):
but remember that being at risk..it's all treat
Gina says to (09:15):
you feel different than everyone else you know
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:15):
able
kristaw says to (09:15):
what do you do if you can not afford therapy?
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:15):
depression and anxiety are so treatable
hsmerritt says to (09:16):
I question that.
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:16):
Kristaw there are often clinics with sliding scales
Gina says to (09:16):
kristaw you try to find group support that is free i would assume
kristaw says to (09:16):
thank you
Jody says to (09:16):
kristaw: talks like this :)
Eleanor Hoh says to (09:16):
Wendy, does food affect diabetics? Of course sugar. I am on cusp of type2 but eat so well, my doc is amazed.
kristaw says to (09:16):
thank you
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:16):
and there are "recovery" groups which are free
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:16):
many support groups are free..check with your med team
hsmerritt says to (09:16):
So much trial and error involved...like trying on jeans.
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:17):
the groups are healing...even if not lead by a therapist
Jody says to (09:17):
keep looking and you will find the right fit
Gina says to (09:17):
jody yes!
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:17):
or create one yourself
Jody says to (09:17):
I'm still looking
Gina says to (09:17):
or have them made lol
Jody says to (09:17):
How do you go about creating a group?
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:17):
and don't
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:17):
don't look for "perfect
hsmerritt says to (09:18):
Draw people in with promises of treats.
Jody says to (09:18):
lol
Gina says to (09:18):
wendy, perfect is my middle name
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:18):
yes, food works
Gina says to (09:18):
its so hard with this damn disease
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:18):
t
Gina says to (09:18):
i want to be perfect
hsmerritt says to (09:18):
good luck with that
Jody says to (09:18):
sometimes you just have to laugh
Gina says to (09:18):
it drives me crazy
hsmerritt says to (09:18):
as it should
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:18):
tell your med team you want to start one and begin with another person
KarenG says to (09:18):
me too Gina, I feel everything has to be perfect & am mad at myself when it's not
Jody says to (09:19):
I "know" people online but finding "in person" people is HARD
hsmerritt says to (09:19):
what a horrible way to live!!
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:19):
You can want to be perfect..and then adjust...let go..and find peace with reality
Gina says to (09:19):
so the way i rebel is not checking or taking insulin
hsmerritt says to (09:19):
what pressure!!!
Gina says to (09:19):
its horrible
karend1 says to (09:19):
anxiety meds worked great for me on effexor for years but I gained 20 lbs. but i need something, any suggestions?? zoloft??
Gina says to (09:19):
i would rather not see the numbers at all
hsmerritt says to (09:19):
Self punishment is so easy with diabetes
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:19):
Gina you have to rebel...but do it with words..throw things
Jody says to (09:19):
Gina: don't put your health in danger to rebel
Gina says to (09:19):
i dont do that anymore
drewg says to (09:19):
there was an episode of itnervention on A&E where the guy didnt check his numbers or take his insulin and just ate everything in sight. i couldnt watch for more than 2 minutes.
hsmerritt says to (09:19):
Amen
Gina says to (09:20):
drewg thats how i used to be in 2005
Jody says to (09:20):
Dangerous
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:20):
antidepressants like effexor and zoloft work so well with anxiety and are not addicting...(and then you have to go to weight watchers
hsmerritt says to (09:20):
agreed
Jody says to (09:20):
Slippery slope....I have enough problems with weight without MORE meds to add to it
hsmerritt says to (09:20):
this is my first chat room and I'm really having a pretty good time.
Gina says to (09:20):
wendy thats the whole other side of it... self image when you are healthy you gain weight from insulin etc.. and you know us women
DiabeticDiva says to (09:21):
What are some good, practical questions to ask your doctor if you suspect you may be suffering from symptoms of depression, Wendy?
karend1 says to (09:21):
does zoloft cause weight gain as well??
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:21):
sometimesanxiety and depression are situational...but sometimes it's genetic...take a look at your families
Gina says to (09:21):
then its so easy to get back into a horrible pattern
Ellen4087 says to (09:21):
When you eat more calories than you burn you gain weight - it's not the insulin that causes it.
hsmerritt says to (09:21):
I think Ihave both
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:21):
diabetic diva...you make a good point...your doctor should be asking you!
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:21):
If you have t
rpederse says to (09:21):
Everyone in my immediate family deals/has dealt with depression
karend1 says to (09:21):
i know for sure my depression is chemical imbalance of my brain
drewg says to (09:21):
i BLEW up when i was given my first medication in 2005...i cant remember what it was but it was 2 vials and i had to eat an exact amount of carbs and 3 meals a day.
once i went to the novolog pen and lantus i lost a ton of weight.
DiabeticDiva says to (09:22):
I saw mine yesterday and let him know of all my concerns (extreme fatigue, emotional, etc.) We started with a lot of blood work... I have a follow up next week
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:22):
trouble with concentrating, overeating or undereating, oversleeping or undersleeping are some signs
Jody says to (09:22):
that's why I went on the pump (partially)
Jody says to (09:22):
still working on that
DiabeticDiva says to (09:22):
Want to be prepared at the follow up with info.... I am hypothyroid too.
Gina says to (09:22):
i have a love/hate relationship with diabetes
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:22):
being tired from high blood sugars..is just that...but you feel depressed and the INTERVENTION is controlling the blood sugar..sometimes people need the assist of meds
Gina says to (09:22):
sometimes i am totally fine
Gina says to (09:23):
others i am ready to throw my pump out the window
karend1 says to (09:23):
gina i have no love for diabetes
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:23):
but don't deprive yourself of the fourth member of the team which is the emotional aspect
hsmerritt says to (09:23):
well said
Gina says to (09:23):
me neither
Gina says to (09:23):
figure of speech i guess lmao
Jody says to (09:23):
I have accepted my Diabetes but that doesn't mean I don't want it gone!
Jaimieh says to (09:23):
I think we all get frustrated at one point or another
rpederse says to (09:23):
i suppose somebody somewhere loves diabetes :)
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:23):
hypothyroid...as celiac..also untreated leads to depression..TEMPORARY DEPRESSION...
Gina says to (09:23):
yea PHARMA COMPANIES
hsmerritt says to (09:24):
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
karend1 says to (09:24):
i just hate when my high bgs are caused by a bad site
hsmerritt says to (09:24):
Bravo for that comment!
Gina says to (09:24):
karend me too
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:24):
yes you have to allow yourself to feel negative feelings..just dont stay there
karend1 says to (09:24):
and you don't believe it is a bad site for days
Jody says to (09:24):
karen: I had a whole day of those because of that
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:24):
i think EXERCISE is the best for reducing anxiety and depression
hsmerritt says to (09:24):
endorphines
Gina says to (09:24):
wendy what are somethings we can do on our own to calm ourselves down?
karend1 says to (09:24):
it is wendy but the work involved with exercise
DiabeticDiva says to (09:25):
I take levothyroxine every day, but truly believe it's not doing it's job..... is it possible even if blood work comes back "normal" that issues could still lie with the
hypothyroid?
Gina says to (09:25):
without therapy
JIMBOB48 says to (09:25):
IS ADDISONS AND DIABETES A BAD COMBO FOR DEORESSION
KarenG says to (09:25):
But how do you motivate youself to exercise when you want to curl up in a ball and cry?
Jody says to (09:25):
What also gets me is being in a bad mood and a family member blaming the BS not just a normal bad mood
Gina says to (09:25):
aww Karen
Jaimieh says to (09:25):
if you can make it through first 5-8 minutes of exercise, mood change will kick in to continue
hsmerritt says to (09:25):
I cry and work out sometimes.
Gina says to (09:25):
really?
hsmerritt says to (09:26):
tyup
Gina says to (09:26):
i feel so much better during exercise
Jaimieh says to (09:26):
I cry, get mad, get frustrated but once I start 5-8min in I am good
hsmerritt says to (09:26):
Sometimes I hate it the whole time
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:26):
it is important for you to check out your bad mood yourself..by checking out your blood sugars...if they are normal..then know you are mad a t something
rpederse says to (09:26):
exercise isn't really hard....it's starting an eercise session that's really tough for me
karend1 says to (09:26):
I am just tired of being sad
hsmerritt says to (09:26):
I hate the qualification process
Gina says to (09:26):
I noticed when my BS is not high all day i feel great
Jody says to (09:26):
But the family doesn't always believe that
karend1 says to (09:26):
thinking of returning to the fat and happy effexor queen
hsmerritt says to (09:27):
BS effects me like clockwork
Ellen4087 says to (09:27):
Why does the family have to believe it?
DiabeticDiva says to (09:27):
Finding an exercise partner who will encourage you and keep you accountable helped me. =)
Gina says to (09:27):
so lately I have been just trying to keep my BS in good range
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:27):
try not to be insulted at someone pointing out your bad mood...use POSITIVE REFRAMING..."i FEEL SO LOVED THAT YOU ARE NOTICING ME
hsmerritt says to (09:27):
seriously?
DiabeticDiva says to (09:27):
me too Karen
Jody says to (09:27):
Ellen: I like to be considered normal SOMETIMES :o)
Gina says to (09:27):
diabeticdiva yesss me and my hubby workout together its a good feeling to have a push in the butt lol
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:28):
YOU ARE NORMAL...YOUR PANCREAS HAS A PROBLEM
Gina says to (09:28):
hahahaha
Jaimieh says to (09:28):
haha love that
Gina says to (09:28):
pancreatically challenged
Jody says to (09:28):
LOL
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:28):
CHANGE THE WAY YOU THINK..FIRST SAY "....." AND THEN MOVE FORWARD. I ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO CURSE..UNDER THEIR BREATH OF COURSE
Gina says to (09:29):
WTF!!!!!
DiabeticDiva says to (09:29):
or screaming into your pillow, haha
karend1 says to (09:29):
it is the long hours of high bgs that do me in, when they won't go down
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:29):
wtf..don't forget my famous 'faux pas"
Gina says to (09:29):
lol
Jaimieh says to (09:29):
lol gina
Gina says to (09:30):
i think we should all scream out a curse word
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:30):
accept the resistance of blood sugars not going down...and connect with omeone to talk it out..it happens, diabetes happens
Gina says to (09:30):
right here in this chat room lol
Gina says to (09:30):
as ellen tells me all the time HIGHS HAPPEN!
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:30):
sometimes a short period of antidepressant medication is important..to kind of start
DiabeticDiva says to (09:30):
better than cancer ? ;)
drewg says to (09:30):
does anyone fear corrupt, greedy pharmacutical companies slowing down cure development?
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:30):
up the dead battery in the brain
hsmerritt says to (09:30):
I DO! I DO!
Gina says to (09:31):
drewg that is for another chat!
Gina says to (09:31):
lol
drewg says to (09:31):
oopsie.
JIMBOB48 says to (09:31):
NO
DiabeticDiva says to (09:31):
Wendy.... do all anti depressent meds make you feel out of it?
DiabeticDiva says to (09:31):
I don't want to feel drugged or in the clouds....
Gina says to (09:31):
when i was in a bad depression they prescribed lexapro
Gina says to (09:31):
i never took it
DiabeticDiva says to (09:31):
but I'm open to trying if it will help
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:32):
no, when you hit the right antidepressant..or sometimes combo prescription..you should feel so much better..less obsessing
hsmerritt says to (09:32):
I've tried almost everything at one point or other
Gina says to (09:32):
i just let it sit on my dresser and i talked to it at night and said I DONT NEED YOU!
hsmerritt says to (09:32):
Did you feel better?
Gina says to (09:32):
yea
Jaimieh says to (09:32):
Wendy what do you think of an anti-depressant reducing a person's GSH (glutathione, bodys master antioxidant)
rpederse says to (09:32):
FWIW....I've been on a number of antidepressants over the years....and never been on one that felt like ANYTHING in the short term
hsmerritt says to (09:32):
that's cool
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:32):
it doesn't have to be permanent when you take a medication..sometimes it is..
rpederse says to (09:32):
the benefit for me is longer term
karend1 says to (09:32):
what do you use Gina?
Gina says to (09:32):
karend for what? im sorry i missed it
karend1 says to (09:33):
effexor is permanent the withdrawal was a nightmare
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:33):
yes you have to wait a long enough period..sometimes 3 weeks or more to feel better with medication...but meanwhile you need to be talking and exercising
karend1 says to (09:33):
i thought you screamed at a drug and said I don't need you??
Gina says to (09:33):
i did
Gina says to (09:33):
lexapro
Gina says to (09:33):
lol
DiabeticDiva says to (09:33):
If this is what my endo recommends will he refer me to a psychologist?
bajanrick says to (09:34):
how did Lexapro feel Gina?
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:34):
what feels badly to you about needing a drug? it is not a weakness..like the pancreas needing insulin from the outside..sometimes
Gina says to (09:34):
i never took it
hsmerritt says to (09:34):
ha
Gina says to (09:34):
I used the jedi mind trick lol
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:34):
if your doctor doesn't refer you...ask him/her..i would be happy to talk to
bajanrick says to (09:34):
ok, I have read some bad reviews...what is that trick?
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:34):
any psychologist or social worker as a consultant
Gina says to (09:35):
I saw a pyschologist that specialized in diabetes as well as a social worker
hsmerritt says to (09:35):
nice touch
Gina says to (09:35):
i never talked about my feelings before i met them
karend1 says to (09:35):
i have a draw full of sample lepraxo, but I don't want to be fat
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:35):
gina what did you find helpful
met says to (09:35):
hello to al
met says to (09:35):
all
hsmerritt says to (09:35):
Hey AL!
bajanrick says to (09:35):
lexapro makes you gain weight?
Gina says to (09:35):
Wendy i found it helpful that I finally got my feelings out
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:35):
not everyone gains weight..with meds..and when you feel better..you have more energy to insist to yourself to exercise...and then you fall in love at the gym
Gina says to (09:36):
that i never talked about to anyone
Gina says to (09:36):
well except ELLEN LOL LOL
met says to (09:36):
I am a mom of a 7 year old with type one - Hard to deal with it all sometimes. I get really worried about him
met says to (09:36):
am on paxil
met says to (09:36):
we all talk to ellen!
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:36):
yes, we hide things that we feel we are the only one feeling..resentment, hostility, etc..theyy are in the NORMAL range of adjustment and life
Gina says to (09:37):
that was the whole burden thing we were talking about before
Jody says to (09:37):
Why does normal NOT feel so normal
Gina says to (09:37):
i never wanted to burden anyone with the way i felt
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:37):
of course it is hard...but don't do it alone..what worries you met?
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:37):
It is not a burden Gina...people feel touched at you t
Transcript follows:
carseatmama says to (08:49):
Hello, what if it's not the diabetic that's depresed it's the mom?
carseatmama says to (08:49):
My 6 year old was diagnosed in Dec.
Wendy Rapaport says to (08:50):
well mom's often have a lot Rof sadness and anxiety for the first year in particular..and they DO GET BETTE
carseatmama says to (08:50):
I cry alot!
Wendy Rapaport says to (08:50):
AND OF COURSE CARSEAT, mom's effect their children...which is why it's so important to get support and guidance
Wendy Rapaport says to (08:51):
you might want to go the Diabetes Research Institute website and sign up to be mat
carseatmama says to (08:51):
We really don't have any programs here...her docs are 1 1/2 hour away
Wendy Rapaport says to (08:51):
hed with someone from the pepsquad
Wendy Rapaport says to (08:51):
you need some online and phone buddies
Wendy Rapaport says to (08:52):
and try the diabet
Wendy Rapaport says to (08:52):
es research institute pep squad 18003213437 barbara singer and she will match you with someone
carseatmama says to (08:52):
Thanks!!
Wendy Rapaport says to (08:52):
and of course there is always professional help...NO STIGMA... it's part of coping
Wendy Rapaport says to (08:53):
hello dearest Gina...love from Gary
Becky1512 says to (08:53):
I went to a therapist after my son was diagnosed
Wendy Rapaport says to (08:53):
yes, becky,,it should almost be a mandatory part of treatment...what did you find helpful
Gina says to (08:54):
My Gary!!!
Gina says to (08:54):
Wendy
Wendy Rapaport says to (08:54):
and Becky whoh guided you to the therapist
Gina says to (08:54):
were you not able to sign in as your name i provided you with?
Becky1512 says to (08:54):
it was good to be able to cry
carseatmama says to (08:54):
I wish I could find a mom with a child Kadies age that has T1 so we can all go through it together
Wendy Rapaport says to (08:55):
no Gina, MY Gary
Becky1512 says to (08:55):
i just thought it would be helpful that was 4 1/2 years ago now
Gina says to (08:55):
Wendy i am p rivate messaging you
Becky1512 says to (08:56):
its so good to be able to talk to other parents that understand I really depend on everyone at CWD children with diabetes
bajanrick says to (08:56):
I have a question.I am not sure how the process works so forgive me if I am being rude. I have recently got my sugar readings under control and I am experiencing
sensations of anxiety. Has anyone else experienced such feelings and how were they treated?
Wendy Rapaport says to (08:56):
call your doctor and let him/her know that you are interested in meeting other families..you do a sleepover
kristaw says to (08:57):
good evening all
Gina says to (08:57):
bajanrick its probably because your blood sugars were high over a long period of time and the symptoms you feel are almost like a low
carseatmama says to (08:58):
kadie is 376!!! no rim or reason here
bajanrick says to (08:59):
its exactly like that. The doc refers to them as false hypos but they have been bothering me now for 12 mths
Gina says to (08:59):
We will officially start the chat in a few minutes
suzanne_una says to (08:59):
Gina and Dr. Wendy, thanks for doing this chat!
Wendy Rapaport says to (08:59):
yes, maybe it's the drop or change in the blood sugar
bajanrick says to (08:59):
and I think it is stating to effect m epsychologically to the point where there is a fear of these sensations
Wendy Rapaport says to (08:59):
pleasure to be here
Gina says to (09:00):
oh no bajanrick
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:00):
bajanrick..it is tough..but you can "decondition yourself" with awareness, relaxation, and changing your thoughts
bajanrick says to (09:01):
especially since when I test the readings are always fine...ok, is Xanax just a shortcut?
bajanrick says to (09:01):
my doc has recommended it
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:01):
using medication can work...but you also want to nourish being skillful..I think MEDICATION with THERAPY IS A BETTER combination
Jody says to (09:02):
Hello all...sorry I'm late
Gina says to (09:02):
Hi jody no problem
DiabeticDiva says to (09:02):
Hi everyone, Windy here
drewg says to (09:02):
i'm in my library and they're only surviving sugar Red Bull for finals week...now that's depressing.
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:02):
it is something like post traumatic stress...(not diagnosable...but the repetition of anxiety
drewg says to (09:02):
*Serving
Jody says to (09:03):
What about Yoga?
Jody says to (09:03):
I just started taking classes.....too much stress on the Blood Sugar?
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:03):
visualize the success you feel drewg..over accomplishing and it being over!
Gina says to (09:03):
I used to have terrible anxeity
Gina says to (09:03):
anxiety
bajanrick says to (09:03):
I have been reluctant to take teh Xanax but I am growing tired....what is the best therapy?
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:04):
Yoga is a good thing too..it lowers blood sugar in most cases for hours after
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:04):
Go to talk someone professionally..take a few sessions..I think every one with diabetes and certainly every mother ought to have a person in their corner
Jody says to (09:04):
I am a recent pump user and I'm still trying to figure out how to work that before classes so my BS doesn't plummet after
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:05):
Jody I think people sometimes disconnect the pump..eat a bit more..many options
Ellen4087 says to (09:06):
20 years ago when I was overwhelmed with my then 15 month old's new diagnosis, I went to a support group with Wendy S-Rapaport - and I still go to her groups!
Jody says to (09:06):
Wendy: Do you still run support groups for T1?
Gina says to (09:06):
I think that getting support when people are first dxd is crucial
Jody says to (09:06):
I used to attend them at UM when I was a new Dx and they worked WONDERS for me.
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:07):
group support is a great thing because you get great ideas from each other..and find that even though down, you can still help each other
Jody says to (09:07):
I wish I could find one for T1 adults
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:07):
Yes I do support groups still.. for th
Gina says to (09:07):
i wished when i was first dxd i had one
Gina says to (09:07):
jody where do you live?
Jody says to (09:07):
Now, I live near Ft. Lauderdale. I grew up in Kendall
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:07):
for those in Boca, there is one thursday nite at 7...we prob need a webcam to have you join us
Gina says to (09:08):
omgggg a webcam yes!!
drewg says to (09:08):
i get incredibly upset, to the point i don't sleep, about long term effects of the disease. should i stop thinking that these negative effects happen to EVERY diabetic? i can't
help but feel like that.
Gina says to (09:08):
then we can all join in on the fun
Gina says to (09:08):
drewg me too
Gina says to (09:08):
its a terrible feeling
Jody says to (09:08):
drewg: we all get that way at times :(
hsmerritt says to (09:08):
too often
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:08):
yes Drewg...be in charge of your thoughts (AFTER YOUSHARE THEM)...you are not a statistic and don't let fear steal your present joys from you
Gina says to (09:08):
i e ven got to the point where i just wanted to get the complications so that i would know i had them instead of wondering
Gina says to (09:09):
if i would get them
hsmerritt says to (09:09):
OMG ME TOO
kristaw says to (09:09):
i get to the point where i don't even want to get out of bed and go on with the rest of my day.
hsmerritt says to (09:09):
I lived half my life that way
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:09):
yes I think that you are all NORMAL...MY DIAGNOSIS
Jody says to (09:09):
I was told a few years back that I (luckily) passed the "danger" zone (after 20 years)
Gina says to (09:09):
it sucks
hsmerritt says to (09:09):
too late for normal
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:09):
BUT feelings should not dictate your behaviors
hsmerritt says to (09:09):
to late for that
KarenG says to (09:10):
I've had T1 for almost 30 years - but I still feel like I'm "broken". And a burden to my husband. I hate that
Gina says to (09:10):
yea
Jody says to (09:10):
It's sad when you've had it longer than you haven't
suzanne_una says to (09:10):
wendy, we can control our feelings with practice, right?
Becky1512 says to (09:10):
Ive read the book 50 secrets of the longest living people with diabetes by Sheri Colberg and Steven Edelman its a fantastic book about people living for up to 80 years
with type 1 diabetes
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:10):
it is the amoujnt of obsessing that gets us into trouble
hsmerritt says to (09:10):
I am a burden to my husband
hsmerritt says to (09:10):
I think he likes it
Gina says to (09:10):
lol sorry i had to laugh
Jody says to (09:10):
hs: I bet your husband doesn't think so
hsmerritt says to (09:10):
I think we agree diabetes is a friggin' burden for ALL
drewg says to (09:10):
i feel very different in terms of when i got it. i got it when i was in 10th grade and in terms of genetics only my great uncle (who i never even met) had it. i felt like i was cursed haha
Jody says to (09:11):
He would not have married you if he thought you were a burden
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:11):
Yes, you can control feelings with giving them acknowledgement...and then decide not to be ruled by negativity
hsmerritt says to (09:11):
I'm so negative
Gina says to (09:11):
drewg omg you have all the feelings i had
Gina says to (09:11):
cursed
hsmerritt says to (09:11):
heehee
hsmerritt says to (09:11):
how long has drew gad this
Jody says to (09:11):
we are "special" not cursed! (keep repeating that!)
drewg says to (09:12):
i was diagnosed 1/15/05. so 4 years.
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:12):
stay loving..and you will be loveable...and allow all the negativity to come out in sessions like this..or in groups..or with the therapist
Gina says to (09:12):
wendy some of us are stubborn and dont want to go to a therapist
hsmerritt says to (09:12):
Oh, a newbie. Hang tough.
Gina says to (09:12):
then what
KarenG says to (09:12):
or the thought of therapy is scary
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:13):
Sometimes the adjustment to diabetes happens many times over the course of your lives..when you initially get it..maybe when you go off from your family...get
Jody says to (09:13):
Wendy: You helped me through those first years. I don't know what I would have done without "Group"
hsmerritt says to (09:13):
Igroup therapy or 1 on 1?
Gina says to (09:13):
or the thought of therapy making you feel like you are more crazy
Jody says to (09:13):
HS: what makes you more comfortable?
drewg says to (09:13):
i know people will probably scream at me a lot for this...but do any other people drink a lot?
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:13):
married...have a baby..different adjstments
JorjGaidin says to (09:13):
Wendy: is depression common amongst diabetics? How common is it?
Jody says to (09:13):
What works for one may not another
hsmerritt says to (09:13):
about what?
Gina says to (09:13):
drewg I dont drink that much anymore
Jody says to (09:13):
HS: "counseling"
bajanrick says to (09:13):
I drink sometimes to avoid anxiety
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:14):
Is the drinking related to your age group (college) or are you USING it as way to cope..to escape
drewg says to (09:14):
um..ive been drinking since 7th grade.
drewg says to (09:14):
i do it because i enjoy it.
drewg says to (09:14):
i enjoy the social aspect, i do it with my family, my friends, i enjoy having parties.
Ellen4087 says to (09:14):
I'd also like to share that approximately 1 in 10 persons with type 1 diabetes also have celiac - often undiagnosed. Untreated celiac can also present with depression,
lethargy...If you haven't been checked for it, ask your doctor to check
hsmerritt says to (09:14):
I find support from a lot of different sources but there's no doubt that this disease is isolating.
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:14):
a therapist becomes a safe "friend"...even though they are professional..your secrets are safe with them
Gina says to (09:14):
HS i agree
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:14):
hsmerritt...who is doing th
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:15):
isolating?
suzanne_una says to (09:15):
ellen, you are so right! we are at risk for lots of autoimmune disorders that can zap us of energy
hsmerritt says to (09:15):
huh? I'm sorry I can't multi-task...
Jody says to (09:15):
I try going to the Gym which is energizing and tiring at the same time....
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:15):
but remember that being at risk..it's all treat
Gina says to (09:15):
you feel different than everyone else you know
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:15):
able
kristaw says to (09:15):
what do you do if you can not afford therapy?
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:15):
depression and anxiety are so treatable
hsmerritt says to (09:16):
I question that.
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:16):
Kristaw there are often clinics with sliding scales
Gina says to (09:16):
kristaw you try to find group support that is free i would assume
kristaw says to (09:16):
thank you
Jody says to (09:16):
kristaw: talks like this :)
Eleanor Hoh says to (09:16):
Wendy, does food affect diabetics? Of course sugar. I am on cusp of type2 but eat so well, my doc is amazed.
kristaw says to (09:16):
thank you
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:16):
and there are "recovery" groups which are free
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:16):
many support groups are free..check with your med team
hsmerritt says to (09:16):
So much trial and error involved...like trying on jeans.
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:17):
the groups are healing...even if not lead by a therapist
Jody says to (09:17):
keep looking and you will find the right fit
Gina says to (09:17):
jody yes!
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:17):
or create one yourself
Jody says to (09:17):
I'm still looking
Gina says to (09:17):
or have them made lol
Jody says to (09:17):
How do you go about creating a group?
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:17):
and don't
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:17):
don't look for "perfect
hsmerritt says to (09:18):
Draw people in with promises of treats.
Jody says to (09:18):
lol
Gina says to (09:18):
wendy, perfect is my middle name
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:18):
yes, food works
Gina says to (09:18):
its so hard with this damn disease
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:18):
t
Gina says to (09:18):
i want to be perfect
hsmerritt says to (09:18):
good luck with that
Jody says to (09:18):
sometimes you just have to laugh
Gina says to (09:18):
it drives me crazy
hsmerritt says to (09:18):
as it should
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:18):
tell your med team you want to start one and begin with another person
KarenG says to (09:18):
me too Gina, I feel everything has to be perfect & am mad at myself when it's not
Jody says to (09:19):
I "know" people online but finding "in person" people is HARD
hsmerritt says to (09:19):
what a horrible way to live!!
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:19):
You can want to be perfect..and then adjust...let go..and find peace with reality
Gina says to (09:19):
so the way i rebel is not checking or taking insulin
hsmerritt says to (09:19):
what pressure!!!
Gina says to (09:19):
its horrible
karend1 says to (09:19):
anxiety meds worked great for me on effexor for years but I gained 20 lbs. but i need something, any suggestions?? zoloft??
Gina says to (09:19):
i would rather not see the numbers at all
hsmerritt says to (09:19):
Self punishment is so easy with diabetes
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:19):
Gina you have to rebel...but do it with words..throw things
Jody says to (09:19):
Gina: don't put your health in danger to rebel
Gina says to (09:19):
i dont do that anymore
drewg says to (09:19):
there was an episode of itnervention on A&E where the guy didnt check his numbers or take his insulin and just ate everything in sight. i couldnt watch for more than 2 minutes.
hsmerritt says to (09:19):
Amen
Gina says to (09:20):
drewg thats how i used to be in 2005
Jody says to (09:20):
Dangerous
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:20):
antidepressants like effexor and zoloft work so well with anxiety and are not addicting...(and then you have to go to weight watchers
hsmerritt says to (09:20):
agreed
Jody says to (09:20):
Slippery slope....I have enough problems with weight without MORE meds to add to it
hsmerritt says to (09:20):
this is my first chat room and I'm really having a pretty good time.
Gina says to (09:20):
wendy thats the whole other side of it... self image when you are healthy you gain weight from insulin etc.. and you know us women
DiabeticDiva says to (09:21):
What are some good, practical questions to ask your doctor if you suspect you may be suffering from symptoms of depression, Wendy?
karend1 says to (09:21):
does zoloft cause weight gain as well??
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:21):
sometimesanxiety and depression are situational...but sometimes it's genetic...take a look at your families
Gina says to (09:21):
then its so easy to get back into a horrible pattern
Ellen4087 says to (09:21):
When you eat more calories than you burn you gain weight - it's not the insulin that causes it.
hsmerritt says to (09:21):
I think Ihave both
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:21):
diabetic diva...you make a good point...your doctor should be asking you!
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:21):
If you have t
rpederse says to (09:21):
Everyone in my immediate family deals/has dealt with depression
karend1 says to (09:21):
i know for sure my depression is chemical imbalance of my brain
drewg says to (09:21):
i BLEW up when i was given my first medication in 2005...i cant remember what it was but it was 2 vials and i had to eat an exact amount of carbs and 3 meals a day.
once i went to the novolog pen and lantus i lost a ton of weight.
DiabeticDiva says to (09:22):
I saw mine yesterday and let him know of all my concerns (extreme fatigue, emotional, etc.) We started with a lot of blood work... I have a follow up next week
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:22):
trouble with concentrating, overeating or undereating, oversleeping or undersleeping are some signs
Jody says to (09:22):
that's why I went on the pump (partially)
Jody says to (09:22):
still working on that
DiabeticDiva says to (09:22):
Want to be prepared at the follow up with info.... I am hypothyroid too.
Gina says to (09:22):
i have a love/hate relationship with diabetes
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:22):
being tired from high blood sugars..is just that...but you feel depressed and the INTERVENTION is controlling the blood sugar..sometimes people need the assist of meds
Gina says to (09:22):
sometimes i am totally fine
Gina says to (09:23):
others i am ready to throw my pump out the window
karend1 says to (09:23):
gina i have no love for diabetes
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:23):
but don't deprive yourself of the fourth member of the team which is the emotional aspect
hsmerritt says to (09:23):
well said
Gina says to (09:23):
me neither
Gina says to (09:23):
figure of speech i guess lmao
Jody says to (09:23):
I have accepted my Diabetes but that doesn't mean I don't want it gone!
Jaimieh says to (09:23):
I think we all get frustrated at one point or another
rpederse says to (09:23):
i suppose somebody somewhere loves diabetes :)
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:23):
hypothyroid...as celiac..also untreated leads to depression..TEMPORARY DEPRESSION...
Gina says to (09:23):
yea PHARMA COMPANIES
hsmerritt says to (09:24):
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
karend1 says to (09:24):
i just hate when my high bgs are caused by a bad site
hsmerritt says to (09:24):
Bravo for that comment!
Gina says to (09:24):
karend me too
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:24):
yes you have to allow yourself to feel negative feelings..just dont stay there
karend1 says to (09:24):
and you don't believe it is a bad site for days
Jody says to (09:24):
karen: I had a whole day of those because of that
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:24):
i think EXERCISE is the best for reducing anxiety and depression
hsmerritt says to (09:24):
endorphines
Gina says to (09:24):
wendy what are somethings we can do on our own to calm ourselves down?
karend1 says to (09:24):
it is wendy but the work involved with exercise
DiabeticDiva says to (09:25):
I take levothyroxine every day, but truly believe it's not doing it's job..... is it possible even if blood work comes back "normal" that issues could still lie with the
hypothyroid?
Gina says to (09:25):
without therapy
JIMBOB48 says to (09:25):
IS ADDISONS AND DIABETES A BAD COMBO FOR DEORESSION
KarenG says to (09:25):
But how do you motivate youself to exercise when you want to curl up in a ball and cry?
Jody says to (09:25):
What also gets me is being in a bad mood and a family member blaming the BS not just a normal bad mood
Gina says to (09:25):
aww Karen
Jaimieh says to (09:25):
if you can make it through first 5-8 minutes of exercise, mood change will kick in to continue
hsmerritt says to (09:25):
I cry and work out sometimes.
Gina says to (09:25):
really?
hsmerritt says to (09:26):
tyup
Gina says to (09:26):
i feel so much better during exercise
Jaimieh says to (09:26):
I cry, get mad, get frustrated but once I start 5-8min in I am good
hsmerritt says to (09:26):
Sometimes I hate it the whole time
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:26):
it is important for you to check out your bad mood yourself..by checking out your blood sugars...if they are normal..then know you are mad a t something
rpederse says to (09:26):
exercise isn't really hard....it's starting an eercise session that's really tough for me
karend1 says to (09:26):
I am just tired of being sad
hsmerritt says to (09:26):
I hate the qualification process
Gina says to (09:26):
I noticed when my BS is not high all day i feel great
Jody says to (09:26):
But the family doesn't always believe that
karend1 says to (09:26):
thinking of returning to the fat and happy effexor queen
hsmerritt says to (09:27):
BS effects me like clockwork
Ellen4087 says to (09:27):
Why does the family have to believe it?
DiabeticDiva says to (09:27):
Finding an exercise partner who will encourage you and keep you accountable helped me. =)
Gina says to (09:27):
so lately I have been just trying to keep my BS in good range
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:27):
try not to be insulted at someone pointing out your bad mood...use POSITIVE REFRAMING..."i FEEL SO LOVED THAT YOU ARE NOTICING ME
hsmerritt says to (09:27):
seriously?
DiabeticDiva says to (09:27):
me too Karen
Jody says to (09:27):
Ellen: I like to be considered normal SOMETIMES :o)
Gina says to (09:27):
diabeticdiva yesss me and my hubby workout together its a good feeling to have a push in the butt lol
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:28):
YOU ARE NORMAL...YOUR PANCREAS HAS A PROBLEM
Gina says to (09:28):
hahahaha
Jaimieh says to (09:28):
haha love that
Gina says to (09:28):
pancreatically challenged
Jody says to (09:28):
LOL
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:28):
CHANGE THE WAY YOU THINK..FIRST SAY "....." AND THEN MOVE FORWARD. I ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO CURSE..UNDER THEIR BREATH OF COURSE
Gina says to (09:29):
WTF!!!!!
DiabeticDiva says to (09:29):
or screaming into your pillow, haha
karend1 says to (09:29):
it is the long hours of high bgs that do me in, when they won't go down
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:29):
wtf..don't forget my famous 'faux pas"
Gina says to (09:29):
lol
Jaimieh says to (09:29):
lol gina
Gina says to (09:30):
i think we should all scream out a curse word
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:30):
accept the resistance of blood sugars not going down...and connect with omeone to talk it out..it happens, diabetes happens
Gina says to (09:30):
right here in this chat room lol
Gina says to (09:30):
as ellen tells me all the time HIGHS HAPPEN!
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:30):
sometimes a short period of antidepressant medication is important..to kind of start
DiabeticDiva says to (09:30):
better than cancer ? ;)
drewg says to (09:30):
does anyone fear corrupt, greedy pharmacutical companies slowing down cure development?
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:30):
up the dead battery in the brain
hsmerritt says to (09:30):
I DO! I DO!
Gina says to (09:31):
drewg that is for another chat!
Gina says to (09:31):
lol
drewg says to (09:31):
oopsie.
JIMBOB48 says to (09:31):
NO
DiabeticDiva says to (09:31):
Wendy.... do all anti depressent meds make you feel out of it?
DiabeticDiva says to (09:31):
I don't want to feel drugged or in the clouds....
Gina says to (09:31):
when i was in a bad depression they prescribed lexapro
Gina says to (09:31):
i never took it
DiabeticDiva says to (09:31):
but I'm open to trying if it will help
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:32):
no, when you hit the right antidepressant..or sometimes combo prescription..you should feel so much better..less obsessing
hsmerritt says to (09:32):
I've tried almost everything at one point or other
Gina says to (09:32):
i just let it sit on my dresser and i talked to it at night and said I DONT NEED YOU!
hsmerritt says to (09:32):
Did you feel better?
Gina says to (09:32):
yea
Jaimieh says to (09:32):
Wendy what do you think of an anti-depressant reducing a person's GSH (glutathione, bodys master antioxidant)
rpederse says to (09:32):
FWIW....I've been on a number of antidepressants over the years....and never been on one that felt like ANYTHING in the short term
hsmerritt says to (09:32):
that's cool
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:32):
it doesn't have to be permanent when you take a medication..sometimes it is..
rpederse says to (09:32):
the benefit for me is longer term
karend1 says to (09:32):
what do you use Gina?
Gina says to (09:32):
karend for what? im sorry i missed it
karend1 says to (09:33):
effexor is permanent the withdrawal was a nightmare
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:33):
yes you have to wait a long enough period..sometimes 3 weeks or more to feel better with medication...but meanwhile you need to be talking and exercising
karend1 says to (09:33):
i thought you screamed at a drug and said I don't need you??
Gina says to (09:33):
i did
Gina says to (09:33):
lexapro
Gina says to (09:33):
lol
DiabeticDiva says to (09:33):
If this is what my endo recommends will he refer me to a psychologist?
bajanrick says to (09:34):
how did Lexapro feel Gina?
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:34):
what feels badly to you about needing a drug? it is not a weakness..like the pancreas needing insulin from the outside..sometimes
Gina says to (09:34):
i never took it
hsmerritt says to (09:34):
ha
Gina says to (09:34):
I used the jedi mind trick lol
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:34):
if your doctor doesn't refer you...ask him/her..i would be happy to talk to
bajanrick says to (09:34):
ok, I have read some bad reviews...what is that trick?
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:34):
any psychologist or social worker as a consultant
Gina says to (09:35):
I saw a pyschologist that specialized in diabetes as well as a social worker
hsmerritt says to (09:35):
nice touch
Gina says to (09:35):
i never talked about my feelings before i met them
karend1 says to (09:35):
i have a draw full of sample lepraxo, but I don't want to be fat
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:35):
gina what did you find helpful
met says to (09:35):
hello to al
met says to (09:35):
all
hsmerritt says to (09:35):
Hey AL!
bajanrick says to (09:35):
lexapro makes you gain weight?
Gina says to (09:35):
Wendy i found it helpful that I finally got my feelings out
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:35):
not everyone gains weight..with meds..and when you feel better..you have more energy to insist to yourself to exercise...and then you fall in love at the gym
Gina says to (09:36):
that i never talked about to anyone
Gina says to (09:36):
well except ELLEN LOL LOL
met says to (09:36):
I am a mom of a 7 year old with type one - Hard to deal with it all sometimes. I get really worried about him
met says to (09:36):
am on paxil
met says to (09:36):
we all talk to ellen!
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:36):
yes, we hide things that we feel we are the only one feeling..resentment, hostility, etc..theyy are in the NORMAL range of adjustment and life
Gina says to (09:37):
that was the whole burden thing we were talking about before
Jody says to (09:37):
Why does normal NOT feel so normal
Gina says to (09:37):
i never wanted to burden anyone with the way i felt
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:37):
of course it is hard...but don't do it alone..what worries you met?
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:37):
It is not a burden Gina...people feel touched at you t
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hsmerritt says to (09:37):
money
Annie says to (09:38):
sometimes I try to act like things are ok around my friends
hsmerritt says to (09:38):
same
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:38):
people feel touched that you trust them to talk
met says to (09:38):
I have a good support system however I worry about every little thing...
Gina says to (09:38):
well at the time I thought i was being a burden then i realized they really wanted to help me but i pushed them away
Jody says to (09:38):
Trust was easier when I was younger
met says to (09:38):
such as.. any high # I am afraid that he will have ketones;
Annie says to (09:38):
It sure was
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:38):
well annie, they say "fake it until you make it"...friends are a good distraction...but you would still be loved if you were honest...then they would open up to you
met says to (09:39):
any kid in the school with a stomach bug; I am afraid tom will get it
met says to (09:39):
and I know he will get sick again... I know that... What I fear the most is that he will doe
met says to (09:39):
die
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:39):
most people without diabetes feel feelings of being less than, insecure, doubting themselves...and we ALL WANT TO BE LOVED
Annie says to (09:39):
probably, but I don't want to expose my inner self
met says to (09:39):
I know it is irrational
Gina says to (09:40):
met, i think if you keep acting all paranoid your kid is going to be afraid of everything too
hsmerritt says to (09:40):
I second that
met says to (09:40):
but the feelings are there... they settle a bit but resurface
DiabeticDiva says to (09:40):
Met, you are a loving Mom.... totally natural... maybe it would help to find a mother of a diabetic adult child who has been where you are and has gotten through it.
Annie says to (09:40):
yeah, for sure. you have to take initiative to be a role mode for your child
met says to (09:40):
I feel like I do a really good job of keeping it from him
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:40):
IF AND when your child catches something annie..you will be on top of it..it's extra work.. but you will hydrate him, give him more insulin..call your doctor
met says to (09:40):
I keep it all in
DiabeticDiva says to (09:40):
My Mom is one of those people she is always willing to email with folks and help.... if you're interested
jon says (09:41):
I am the father of an adult diabetic child who has been there
met says to (09:41):
thanks you diva
met says to (09:41):
really, jon?
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:41):
and call a friend...have a buddy who hangs with you..nice if it's the father..or if you are single...find a sister
met says to (09:41):
does it get easier?
Jody says to (09:41):
My Mom was my rock growing up with this thing....Without her, I don't know where I'd be today
jon says (09:41):
yes, hang around after chat and we can talk if you want
met says to (09:41):
my husband is great
met says to (09:42):
I want to be Tom's rock, Jody. That is what I want. Sometimes I feel like a pebble though!
Ellen4087 says to (09:42):
Yes it gets easier because we can empower our children to become confident and competent and you can discuss the diabetes with them, insulin doses etc.
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:42):
a rm through iteminder that the Diabetes research Institute has a mentoring program that matches mothers or fathers with newly diagnosed diabetes or just teenagers!!!
with someone to talk th
Jody says to (09:42):
Met: you do more than you think
It's not easy
bajanrick says to (09:42):
Ihave to go. I want to thank everyone. The false hypos were really starting to affect me and I was fearful of taking anti-anxiety medication. Now I feel better. Thanks again
DiabeticDiva says to (09:42):
Same here Jody, Met- I am married with 2 kids now, been a T1 since I was 7..... my Mom still worries, she'll always be my Mom.... but she's let go and stays supportive
when I need her.... she's the best. =)
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:42):
Ellen has just graduated with her masters in Social work...congrats..you now have the license to do with what you have done well
Gina says to (09:42):
bajanrick anytime
Jaimieh says to (09:43):
congrats Ellen!
Jody says to (09:43):
Congrats Ellen!
DiabeticDiva says to (09:43):
That's great Ellen
Ellen4087 says to (09:43):
I don't have the "license" yet, but thank you. :-*
Annie says to (09:43):
congrats
hsmerritt says to (09:43):
yes!
kristaw says to (09:43):
way to go ellen
Jody says to (09:43):
Diva: I would love to have kids someday but I may be running out of time (I'm 34)
met says to (09:43):
FOr me; it is the not knowing when he will be sick; be high; have ketones... It is all so unpredictable. Annd he has had D/ for 5 years!
Gina says to (09:43):
ellen is awesome
Gina says to (09:44):
jody omgggg me too
Gina says to (09:44):
im 33
met says to (09:44):
34 is young!
Gina says to (09:44):
thats how i feel
hsmerritt says to (09:44):
Me too jody
met says to (09:44):
I had Tommy at 33
Jody says to (09:44):
Met: He will tell you
Ellen4087 says to (09:44):
Met, can you notice when he's well, when he's happy, and energetic, and thriving and document that?
drewg says to (09:44):
can someone explain ketones? i dont check for them... :-/
hsmerritt says to (09:44):
I'm 38. Bye bye kiddos
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:44):
teach moms and family members how to be present for you..not worry for you..how to say "tell me more" when you say your blood sugars are high..not "what did you do
met says to (09:44):
Yes - I can tell.
Gina says to (09:44):
haidee nooo
met says to (09:44):
No, I don't document
hsmerritt says to (09:44):
i think so...
met says to (09:44):
should I?
Jody says to (09:45):
Thanks Met
Ellen4087 says to (09:45):
It may help to notice how often he's thriving
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:45):
yes met, as ellen says...change your focus for gratitude rather than fear or dread..it wastes your time..and passes that attitude on to your child
met says to (09:45):
good point, Ellen!
met says to (09:45):
it does waste my time and it irritates me!
JIMBOB48 says to (09:45):
WHY AM I TIRED ALL THE TIME
Jody says to (09:45):
Met: have you considered a Diabetes Summer Camp?
met says to (09:45):
but the feelings creep back in
met says to (09:46):
I haven't, no
Jody says to (09:46):
Independence helps both mother and child I think
met says to (09:46):
although I did dream about it a few nights ago, oddly
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:46):
almost everyone with diabetes starts out with worry..it is NORMAL (NOTICE i keep saying normal)...just don't make th
Jody says to (09:46):
I started going at age 7......and it helped
DiabeticDiva says to (09:46):
diabetes camp is great.... I know it's scary for you to hand him over to others.... but it will do him a world of good and create strong positive childhood memories.
Gina says to (09:46):
everybody say N O R M A L LOL
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:47):
DON;T MAKE WORRY WHAT YOU DO ALL THE TIME
jon says (09:47):
diabetes camp was the best thing that ever happened to my son
Jody says to (09:47):
Me too
jon says (09:47):
even though he swore he hated it
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:47):
and summer camp is great for the parents..you need your vacation too
DiabeticDiva says to (09:47):
I am so thankful that my Mom let me go to camp every summer and on many church youth trips.... had to be terrifying for her, but meant the world to me and made me feel
independent and normal!
Jody says to (09:47):
I loved my experience at one and hated it at the other
met says to (09:47):
that shouild be tatooed to my forehead, Wendy!
JIMBOB48 says to (09:47):
THAERE WERE NO DIABETES CAMPS WHEN I WAS A KID BUT I WOULD STILL LIKE TO GO
Gina says to (09:47):
ME TOO
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:47):
and if your kid says he hates camp..let
met says to (09:48):
I will think on that for next summer
Gina says to (09:48):
they should make an adult diabetes camp
Jody says to (09:48):
Jimbo: Become a counselor?
Gina says to (09:48):
i would go lol
met says to (09:48):
and look into it
Jody says to (09:48):
I agree Gina
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:48):
so yes go back as a volunteer or counselor
met says to (09:48):
I am so attached to him and he to me... It would be weird; but I see the benefits
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:48):
gina you know we have been talking about adult diabete
JIMBOB48 says to (09:48):
I HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:48):
s camp
Gina says to (09:48):
oh?
DiabeticDiva says to (09:48):
ha, me too Gina! =)
Gina says to (09:48):
who is me!
Jody says to (09:48):
Sign me up Wendy!
DiabeticDiva says to (09:49):
I might go to CWD conference for a couple days though this summer to meet up with some other D bloggers
Gina says to (09:49):
me too!
Jody says to (09:49):
:D
hsmerritt says to (09:49):
Me too!
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:49):
and perhaps the diabetes research institute will try to have a session in November at the end of the day for the adults.(research conference
DiabeticDiva says to (09:49):
Might be a good baby step for you to check out the Children With Diabetes organization website.... you can go to the conference together and let him dip his feet into the
waters of being around other diabetic kids, he'll love it. =)
met says to (09:50):
that sound good, diva!
Gina says to (09:50):
Yea Gary said that
Gina says to (09:50):
not like the one in NY there were a bunch?
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:50):
i think writing is so therapeutic for all of you...and informative to those around you...those with diabetes and without
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:51):
gina let's plan ahead for the adult edition (no, that's not xrated) of the CWD who grew up!!!
met says to (09:51):
I just stared at group on facebook called TOMS - type one mom support... It is for some people I have met in the area with children with type one... We are going to get the
kids together soon and also have a night out to chat.. just parents
Jody says to (09:51):
Sometimes it's just more helpful to talk to those who have "been there"
Gina says to (09:51):
IM in
met says to (09:51):
I love CWD - got me through the beginnings of d.
Jody says to (09:51):
Met: sounds great
Ellen4087 says to (09:52):
I've been chatting at cwd for over a decade
Gina says to (09:52):
whoaaaa
met says to (09:52):
5 years for me!
Annie says to (09:52):
do you think adhd can adversely affect D management?
Jody says to (09:52):
I'd love an "adults edition" Wendy
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:52):
what is good about support..is that you realize you are not alone..even if you handle things differently than oth
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:52):
rs..others get
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:52):
ou
DiabeticDiva says to (09:52):
I have to head to bed folks....good night all. I can be reached at WindyCobourne@gmail.com if you need anything, met or anyone else. Night!
DiabeticDiva says to (09:52):
Thank you Wendy. =)
Gina says to (09:52):
Wendy, when we all met in NY that time that was the best day ever for me.
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:52):
thanksyou diva
met says to (09:52):
thanks diva!
Gina says to (09:52):
night Diva thanks for coming!
Annie says to (09:52):
night
Ellen4087 says to (09:52):
Goodnight Windy - Gina showed me your website!
KarenG says to (09:53):
Me too, Gina!
Gina says to (09:53):
Karen and I were there! i was so happy to meet her!
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:53):
Gina I thought it was great too..and people need a change of jeans and sneakers and a bed roll..and just keep talking...
DiabeticDiva says to (09:53):
Thanks Ellen... for the Celiac tips... researched it... (Googled it? Does that count? ha!) will mention to my doc....
Jody says to (09:53):
Wendy: I have MISSED group so much.....Ellen told me about Boca on Thursday. I'm DEFINITELY going to be there (but probably late)
Gina says to (09:53):
yea i agree
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:53):
and thyroid too diva
Gina says to (09:53):
Wendy are you ever gonna be in NY again lol
1chicagochick says to (09:53):
oh darn, I missed the chat :(
DiabeticDiva says to (09:54):
Yes, he has treated my hypothyroid for years
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:54):
Jody are you jody B?
DiabeticDiva says to (09:54):
never changed the med yet, but think it might be time now!
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:54):
and remember that thyroid meds can change over th
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:54):
years
Jaimieh says to (09:54):
did you find out about armour more wendy?
KarenG says to (09:54):
Yes, Wendy, your session was awsome in NY
Gina says to (09:54):
Diabetes Burnout Chat!
Jody says to (09:54):
Wendy: Ryttenberg was my maiden name
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:54):
oh my g-d...jody I can't wait to
DiabeticDiva says to (09:55):
Jaimie- he said he would discuss it with me after he sees the blood work results at my appt next Tues. I have a growing list of things to talk about... thankfully he never
rushes me =)
hsmerritt says to (09:55):
Thanks for the chatting, all. I'm going to plug my book because I'm desperate: www.HaideeMerritt.com Laughter is good for diabetics. I hope to catch up with you all again...Night!
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:55):
don't hate depression everyone...accept it, understand it, and treat it...through talk, exercise, less alcohol
Jaimieh says to (09:55):
that's good =) curious about natural vs synthetic
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:55):
you don't have to be desparate to plug
Gina says to (09:56):
alcohol makes it fun though lol
Jody says to (09:56):
Thanks Wendy! Good night all!
Gina says to (09:56):
Haidees book is hysterical
1chicagochick says to (09:56):
I'm bipolar, so I get to deal with manias along with the depressions.
hsmerritt says to (09:56):
you're sweet
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:56):
my doctoral dissertatioin was on humor as a coping mechanism in diabetes
Jaimieh says to (09:56):
I'll check it out Haidee
Gina says to (09:56):
Im not lying!!
kristaw says to (09:56):
if we want to speak with you some more is there a way to get ahold of you?
met says to (09:56):
that is interesting, wendy
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:56):
go for th
hsmerritt says to (09:56):
that's cool wendy
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:57):
right meds for bipolar..it takes a while for the right combo..it's a lot to deal with...BUT YOU CAN
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:57):
ANY OF you can write me wen4jim@msn.com
met says to (09:58):
need to say goodnight... thanks for the chat and for listening and sharing
Gina says to (09:58):
met anytime!
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:58):
depression and anxiety are really medical problems..treated with therapy but stillmedical
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:58):
take away the stigma
Annie says to (09:58):
they are
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:58):
I once wrote an article:"You don't have to be crazy to be a therapist..I mean see a therapist...but sometimes you have to be crazy not to
1chicagochick says to (09:58):
yeah, I'm on a good cocktail for it, and truthfully, I don't mind the manias, but the depressions are really bad.
kristaw says to (09:59):
thank you so much for all of your help this evening
Gina says to (09:59):
hahaha
1chicagochick says to (09:59):
lol
Wendy Rapaport says to (09:59):
then chicago chick..you are still not on the right combo..don't give up...go to a specialist
Ellen4087 says to (09:59):
I'd like to read that article!
1chicagochick says to (10:00):
I will
Jaimieh says to (10:00):
check out www.nkm2.org I'm big advocate on behalf of my mom...awesome site...remove stigma
Gina says to (10:00):
Wendy i would like to know about who and what is going on with the adult camp
Wendy Rapaport says to (10:00):
diabetes forecast I think...long long ago...the first article I ever wrote was on why children lie about diabetes..it makes sense..who wants to make their
Wendy Rapaport says to (10:00):
mothers upset..for one
jon says to met (private) (10:00):
i am also usually here in chat on wednesday nights for meet and greet chat
Ellen4087 says to (10:01):
We have to set our children up to feel safe to tell the truth when it comes to diabetes - not to feel judged, to feel appreciated for the honesty
met says to jon (private) (10:01):
how old at dx?
Gina says to (10:01):
i agree
Gina says to (10:01):
i was a liar...
Annie says to (10:01):
me too
Gina says to (10:01):
and i was cough 25 lol
Wendy Rapaport says to (10:01):
so adults with diabetes don't have to lie! They have to have confidence..I teach children to answer their parents with truth..I am high because I didn't want to take my shot
with my friends around...and I teach parents to answer
kristaw says to (10:01):
have a great night all and thank you for your time
KarenG says to (10:01):
I hid my diabetes from friends for years and years and years
Ellen4087 says to (10:02):
We already know why their blood sugar is high - because they have diabetes!
Wendy Rapaport says to (10:02):
Thanks for your honesty..we will work on being able to do it in front of your friends..any ideas...let the kid "problem solve" with you
Gina says to (10:02):
Ellen and Wendy you can go into practice together you would rule the world!
Ellen4087 says to (10:02):
That's great Wendy
Jaimieh says to (10:02):
they should not be ashamed...part of who they are but does not define them
Gina says to (10:03):
gotta check the BS right now BRB
Wendy Rapaport says to (10:03):
i like seeing the support you give each other..admitting th
Wendy Rapaport says to (10:03):
things you thought you were the only one who felt that way...
Gina says to (10:04):
yea once you get started you cant stop talking!
Jana M says to (10:04):
I've had a bit of a hard time getting started, but I find reading everyone's posts is very helpful
Gina says to (10:04):
I dont mean you Wendy just in general when you meet someone with D
Wendy Rapaport says to (10:04):
People with diabetes have strong character..you have faced difficult things..and live with self consciousness and hard work each day..you deserve a merit badge
Wendy Rapaport says to (10:05):
and you must come to terms with taking th
Wendy Rapaport says to (10:05):
most precious and informed care of ourselves
Annie says to (10:05):
whoops i totally forgot to bolus for dinner
Wendy Rapaport says to (10:06):
do consider taking the MYD Mastering your diabetes course at the Diabetes Research Institute..why it works is because it is a groupgroup
Jana M says to (10:06):
I have been forgetting to bolus a lot lately, does anyone else do that the longer they are on the pump?
Wendy Rapaport says to (10:06):
you learn the facts and solutions..but you do it with others
Wendy Rapaport says to (10:06):
jana..what does forgetting mean
Jana M says to (10:07):
I will eat and forget to bolus for a while
Annie says to (10:07):
i forget sometimes, but I am just lazy about testing sometimes
Gina says to (10:07):
Jana, I had a horrible time alwasy forgetting to bolus what i do is make sure I always prebolus before i eat
Annie says to (10:07):
i go from being a super good diabetic to being bad from time to time
Gina says to (10:07):
tried making it a habit
Gina says to (10:08):
Annie dont we all!
Jana M says to (10:08):
I used to do that, but sometimes I would not be as hungry as I thought and then I would get low...
Wendy Rapaport says to (10:08):
I always wonder about forgetting and lazy...I always think there is something more to that..(but I would, I am a psychologist)..with all you do, you all are not lzy
Wendy Rapaport says to (10:08):
aha!
Gina says to (10:08):
its lazy wendy trust me lol
Gina says to (10:08):
its the i dont feel like it syndrome lol
Ellen4087 says to (10:08):
Gina, I've known you for years - you are one of the least lazy people I've ever met
Annie says to (10:09):
well it's depends on my mood, too.....
Annie says to (10:09):
sometimes i will have a1cs in the 5s
Wendy Rapaport says to (10:09):
sometimes with young children, mothers give insulin after because they are never sure..
Annie says to (10:09):
next 3 months.....in the 8s
Gina says to (10:09):
Wendy i have heard that too
Jaimieh says to (10:09):
apidra is good for that
Wendy Rapaport says to (10:10):
you are never a bad diabetic...but you are doing things by not taking care of yourself that put
Wendy Rapaport says to (10:10):
you in a bad mood because the blood sugars are high..and then you punish yourself...WASTE OF TIME...if you "burnout"...get y
Jana M says to (10:10):
My mood affects everything quite a bit too. I will admit there are times I just don't care that much...
Wendy Rapaport says to (10:10):
ourself re aroused and stimulated with new information..new discussion
Jaimieh says to (10:11):
self sabotage I think plays into it along with confidence or self-worthy-ness'....when I don't seem to make myself a priority I fall back on D-care
Gina says to (10:11):
wendy sounds KINKY lol
Jana M says to (10:11):
there are also times i am super obsessed about good control too
Gina says to (10:11):
Jana me too
Jaimieh says to (10:11):
that comes with burned out feeling
Gina says to (10:11):
jana are you the same one from juvenation?
Jana M says to (10:11):
yes
Gina says to (10:11):
yay!
Annie says to (10:11):
thanks
Jana M says to (10:12):
I think this is great, I've never been involved with any other diabetics...
Wendy Rapaport says to (10:12):
If you are not caring jana..you have to take care of THAT PROBLEM..it is not normal to not care..it is sadness or anger or exhaustion or just plain high blood sugars...buddy up and change the situation.
Wendy Rapaport says to (10:13):
I have a late night date with my husband who has diabetes...and by the way..one of th
Wendy Rapaport says to (10:13):
things I found (find) at
Wendy Rapaport says to (10:13):
r
Wendy Rapaport says to (10:13):
att
Wendy Rapaport says to (10:13):
r
Jana M says to (10:13):
i am, and i don't always feel that way, lately it's been hard because i had an accident last summer and have been on too many drugs, but i'm off them now and things are getting better
Wendy Rapaport says to (10:13):
attractive about my husband with diabetes is that he takes care of himself. I think it is sexy when someone takes care of themselves
Gina says to (10:14):
bow chicka bow bow lol
Wendy Rapaport says to (10:14):
so forgive yourself if you go through periods where you are off in your care..don't waste time judging..change not judge
Annie says to (10:14):
that's cool :P
Gina says to (10:14):
thats great advice
Jana M says to (10:14):
thank you
Gina says to (10:15):
jana did you see my post back to you about my accident
Wendy Rapaport says to (10:15):
lovely to meet you all..be in touch..wen4jim@msn.com
Jaimieh says to (10:15):
you can't fail if you don't quit...saddle up and press on is all we can do...moment by moment
Gina says to (10:15):
Wendy thanks for coming
Ellen4087 says to (10:15):
Thank you Wendy
Gina says to (10:15):
your chats are always so informative and fun!
Annie says to (10:15):
thanks
Jaimieh says to (10:15):
even though it is easier said than done at time ;)
KarenG says to (10:15):
Thanks everyone
Jana M says to (10:15):
gina, yes i did and thank you
Wendy Rapaport says to (10:15):
my pleasure..I learn from you too:
Gina says to (10:16):
Wendy email me about the camp
Gina says to (10:16):
and also
Gina says to (10:16):
i never heard from the NOVO guy you introduced me to i wrote him back
Jana M says to (10:17):
need to go eat dinner, thank you all.
Wendy Rapaport says to (10:17):
we ...will be in touch...(I said goodbye twice..separation anxiety
Gina says to (10:17):
lol
Gina says to (10:17):
byeee
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Gina says to (10:17):
if you guys want to stay and chat i will be here for a while
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Permalink Reply by Dominic Joelson on -
I just want to know. What can be a good substitute for sugar? My dad, who is diabetic really love sweets.. =(
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